Patty's last appearances?

[Lenona]

According to this -

http://en.wikipedia.rg/wiki/Patty_%28Peanuts%29

Patty's swan song was, in theory, on April 11, 1976.

Since I'm none too fond of the 1970-2000 strips anyway, the only 1970s
appearance I remember was from a paperback book from 1971, where she
appeared on the ball field. (OK, so I haven't been following the
"Complete" books as much as I'd like to.)

So, in which 1970s paperbacks DOES she appear? Also, in the "Complete"
books, does she appear at least once a year, or what?

Thank you.

Lenona.

[t***@lsa.umich.edu]

Post by Lenona
According to this -
http://en.wikipedia.rg/wiki/Patty_%28Peanuts%29
Patty's swan song was, in theory, on April 11, 1976.

There are occasional appearances later on, for example on Nov 25, 1992.

Post by Lenona
So, in which 1970s paperbacks DOES she appear? Also, in the "Complete"
books, does she appear at least once a year, or what?

The Complete Peanuts has a pretty good index so it should be possible to
check this pretty easily.

[Covenant]

In article

Post by Lenona
According to this -
http://en.wikipedia.rg/wiki/Patty_%28Peanuts%29
Patty's swan song was, in theory, on April 11, 1976.

There are occasional appearances later on, for example on Nov 25, 1992.

Post by Lenona
So, in which 1970s paperbacks DOES she appear? Also, in the "Complete"
books, does she appear at least once a year, or what?

The Complete Peanuts has a pretty good index so it should be possible to
check this pretty easily.

So Tim,

Once the Complete is.. well.. Completed.. do you plan to finally make your
immense database available ??

;' )

[t***@lsa.umich.edu]

Post by Covenant
Once the Complete is.. well.. Completed.. do you plan to finally make your
immense database available ??

Well, I actually lost steam somewhere in the 11,000 to 13,000-strip range
so my database isn't complete. It therefore wouldn't be that useful to the
general public without my putting a lot more work into it. Besides that,
even when the Complete Peanuts is fully available, it won't suddenly make
it legal for me to distribute such an electronic database. So unfortunately
the answer is no.

[Covenant]

Post by t***@lsa.umich.edu

Post by Covenant
Once the Complete is.. well.. Completed.. do you plan to finally make your
immense database available ??

Well, I actually lost steam somewhere in the 11,000 to 13,000-strip range
so my database isn't complete. It therefore wouldn't be that useful to the
general public without my putting a lot more work into it. Besides that,
even when the Complete Peanuts is fully available, it won't suddenly make
it legal for me to distribute such an electronic database. So
unfortunately
the answer is no.

Awwwhhhhhh......

;' )

To be honest, I actually thought the datatbase was simply textual.
(I envisioned some enormous Excel spreadsheet!)

;' )

Cheers

[t***@lsa.umich.edu]

Post by Covenant
To be honest, I actually thought the datatbase was simply textual.

It is textual, but it's not only the images but the text that is covered
by copyright.

[Covenant]

Post by t***@lsa.umich.edu

Post by Covenant
To be honest, I actually thought the datatbase was simply textual.

It is textual, but it's not only the images but the text that is covered
by copyright.

Good point....

But wouldn't use of it as an educational tool, not for sale, be *fair use* ?

;' )

[Jim Ellwanger]

Post by Covenant
Good point....
But wouldn't use of it as an educational tool, not for sale, be *fair use* ?

The "fair use" concept only applies to brief excerpts of a work -- we're
pretty safe quoting from strips when they're being discussed here, but
going much beyond that would be copyright infringement.

On the "educational tool" argument: at least in the U.S., college
professors have gotten in trouble for photocopying entire chapters of
books or entire magazine articles and distributing them to their
students (without appropriate payment to the copyright holders). And
that's a much more obvious example of "an educational tool" than the
text from the entire run of "Peanuts" being distributed.

[Andrew B.]

Post by t***@lsa.umich.edu

Post by Lenona
According to this -
http://en.wikipedia.rg/wiki/Patty_%28Peanuts%29
Patty's swan song was, in theory, on April 11, 1976.

There are occasional appearances later on, for example on Nov 25, 1992.

Post by Lenona
So, in which 1970s paperbacks DOES she appear? Also, in the "Complete"
books, does she appear at least once a year, or what?

The Complete Peanuts has a pretty good index so it should be possible to
check this pretty easily.

It's not 100% reliable - there's no mention of her in the 1975-6 index
despite her appearance as mentioned above. (She's in every year from
1950-74, plus 1976 and 1978).

[Andrew B.]

Post by Andrew B.

Post by t***@lsa.umich.edu

Post by Lenona
According to this -
http://en.wikipedia.rg/wiki/Patty_%28Peanuts%29
Patty's swan song was, in theory, on April 11, 1976.

There are occasional appearances later on, for example on Nov 25, 1992.

Post by Lenona
So, in which 1970s paperbacks DOES she appear? Also, in the "Complete"
books, does she appear at least once a year, or what?

The Complete Peanuts has a pretty good index so it should be possible to
check this pretty easily.

It's not 100% reliable - there's no mention of her in the 1975-6 index
despite her appearance as mentioned above. (She's in every year from
1950-74, plus 1976 and 1978).

The 1978 appearance can be seen at http://comics.com/peanuts/1978-07-24.

[Jym Dyer]

Post by t***@lsa.umich.edu

Post by Lenona
According to this -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_%28Peanuts%29

Post by t***@lsa.umich.edu

Post by Lenona
Patty's swan song was, in theory, on April 11, 1976.

=v= Hmm, it says:

| Last appearance: April 11, 1976 (officially, although she will
| appear occasionally in the Peanuts comic strip unofficially on
| March 2, 1994 and officially on April 17, 1995).

Here are all three of those strips:

http://comics.com/peanuts/1976-04-11

http://comics.com/peanuts/1994-03-02

http://comics.com/peanuts/1995-04-17

=v= Wikipedia also says:

| Schulz claimed he drew Patty in the March 2, 1994 strip in
| which she wants Snoopy to chase rabbits with her (a role
| previously usually taken by Frieda), although some fans
| have stated that the girl in the strip in question does
| not resemble Patty.

I'd say she's Patty playing with hair dye. This was during
an era when Schulz was fooling around with Zip-A-Tone.

Post by t***@lsa.umich.edu
There are occasional appearances later on, for example on
Nov 25, 1992.

=v= Nice find!

http://comics.com/peanuts/1992-11-25

Note that, along with the April 17, 1995 strip, she appears
alongside Violet. Which she often did, back in the day.
<_Jym_>

P.S.: I miss Frieda. She had naturally-curly hair, you know.

[t***@lsa.umich.edu]

Post by Jym Dyer
| Last appearance: April 11, 1976 (officially, although she will
| appear occasionally in the Peanuts comic strip unofficially on
| March 2, 1994 and officially on April 17, 1995).

What the heck does "officially" and "unofficially" mean here? Under what
possible definition of "official" can she "officially" appear for the last
time in 1976 and also have an "official" appearance in 1995?

Post by Jym Dyer
| Schulz claimed he drew Patty in the March 2, 1994 strip in
| which she wants Snoopy to chase rabbits with her (a role
| previously usually taken by Frieda), although some fans
| have stated that the girl in the strip in question does
| not resemble Patty.

I can give some extra information about this. For a while, there was a
feature in the Peanuts Collector Club magazine called "Sparky's Question
Box" where readers could write in with their questions and Schulz would
answer them. I asked him specifically about this strip and who the girl
was. Schulz said it was Patty.

[Andrew B.]

Post by Jym Dyer
| Last appearance: April 11, 1976 (officially, although she will
| appear occasionally in the Peanuts comic strip unofficially on
| March 2, 1994 and officially on April 17, 1995).

What the heck does "officially" and "unofficially" mean here?  Under what
possible definition of "official" can she "officially" appear for the last
time in 1976 and also have an "official" appearance in 1995?

The "Peanuts FAQ" at http://fivecentsplease.org/dpb/peantfaq.txt says:
"She vanished from "regular sight" on April 11, 1976, but has popped
up a few times since...or at least we think she has, since the
sightings come without attribution."

Obviously this doesn't stop the Wiki entry being nonsense, but it may
be source of the confusion.

[Jym Dyer]

| Last appearance: April 11, 1976 (officially, although she will
| appear occasionally in the Peanuts comic strip unofficially on
| March 2, 1994 and officially on April 17, 1995).

Post by t***@lsa.umich.edu
What the heck does "officially" and "unofficially" mean here?

=v= They obviously mean [citation needed]. It's ridiculous!
<_Jym_>